I have written on this topic in the past and got everything from agreement to threats of violence. Well, I am still here, and writing about it again.
The issue is more of a question now; and one I ask many of you to ponder as you comment: Is renfaire for adults only? Or is it for kids to learn and experience a living fantasy of their own? Or can it be a little of both?
You see, I will first post from an events that have happened over the past few years:
An article was written in the Houston Press by Jef with one F. The article, found here, speaks about Jef and his wife and young daughter going to the Texas Renaissance Fair this year. His wife purchased a set of Satyr horns; a normal thing to do at a ren faire. She, in front of their daughter, was asked numerous times and numerous different ways the basic old and tired joke of "Hey horny lady!" and "Well how horny are you?" and so on and so forth to the point of pure cat calling.
This is nothing new. Mr. Jef wrote about how this was just not appropriate in front of his daughter especially, but really the creativity was just gone as well. An innuendo may be ok if it is done correctly, and metaphorically. But to be so brash and non creative, especially with kids around, is just wrong.
He received numerous comments, some of which I will post here with my responses to each:
Jacob Bocanegra from FacebookDec 7, 2014
Stop taking your kids everywhere. Get a sitter. Vegas,Cancun, San Antonio, Rodeo Cookoff, Grown up movies. I spend time with my kids and then I go places with adults I Dont want to see YOUR KID.
Well, considering that faires WANT children and families at faires (seeing as to how they market it that way) maybe we dont want to see YOU there...
texmex01 6 days ago
yep , the good old days, multiple DWI fueled accidents, fights , and general douchery.....
Yeah, THAT sounds like a good time, going to jail and all...
Jesse Santillano from FacebookDec 3, 2014
If you don't want your kids to hear it, keep them at home. No one is forcing you to attend or requiring you to bring your kids. I have been attending for almost 30 years and I love it. One of my best friends even flies in from Las Vegas so we can get all our friends together and go. It's a must do thing that we still share to this day. Don't like it? Don't go, you won't be missed. Now grow up and go grow some brass ones! Some people are so overly sensitive nowadays, joy killers from hell.
Here's an idea: if you want that much adult entertainment with your buddy from Vegas, ugh, GO TO VEGAS!
Renee Estrada from FacebookDec 2, 2014
Oh grow the f*&k up. If you don't like leave the kids at home. I find all of the jokes and vulgarity hilarious. I ain't afraid to bring my 13 yr old twins boys with me. Trust me they've heard worse.
To which the best response was already taken to this: a4534110 Dec 3, 2014 I believe you when you say your sons have heard worse.
As for a personal issue I have had, I had taken my family which included my now wife and my twin daughters who were about 7 and my very young son to Scarborough Faire. We were at the food pavilions, The Queens Kitchens, so an area where everyone, families and all, will have to go if they are to eat, not a tavern. A pretzel vendor (YES, a PRETZEL VENDOR) thought that he had to use extreme vulgarity to sell pretzels. I politely asked him to "Please watch your mouth good sir, there are wee ones about". His response? "Well this mouth was on your mom's P*$$Y last night." I had my wife take the kids away while I had "A little chat" with this character, who quickly then saw my view...
Another time, a character that I actually really like, did something that I was not impressed with. He was attempting to get more people into a particular shop that had food goods. He would go to children that had their mothers with them, and ask the child "I'll get you a free gift inside if I can get mommy's phone number". Not appropriate to do that to the kid.
Another time, the belly dancers were dancing and one of the dancers was having "wardrobe malfunctions". Instead of going back and fixing the malfunction, she simply stuffed in back in, to which it popped back out, and repeat over and over.
I also have had heard many things (no, I do not know other than reading what has been posted all over facebook pages) about the goings on at the various renfaires that involve the firing of a pickle vendor for remarks unbecoming towards patrons. This was perhaps not his worst comment, but when it has to be qualified like that, there is a pattern of repeat offenses, and yes I have heard the same vendor speak worse than what he finally got fired for.
I have also heard of many things that happen after hours at the campgrounds. Personally, I do not care who goes in what tent, camper, or otherwise. But, is the campgrounds for adults only? I have not camped at faire, as I do have kids and have heard quite enough to not take my kids into that environment. So, I am honestly asking opinion on this one.
As for in the gates of faire; there are faires that I will not take my children to because the atmosphere is too adult. Adult time is fine; I have no problem with adult time. But it needs to be advertised in such a way.
My answer to the issue is simple,either keep adult atmosphere in the taverns or have kids weekends and adult weekends advertised and stick to the rules.
Comment, like, or threaten me all you will.
Keep in mind that I do have a book published that is not recommended for children, so I do understand adult medieval vs kids medieval.